I would like to use this issue as a teaching moment regarding polemics. I must say ministers who create a “canon within a canon” and who employ their ill-informed bobo [blink on-blink off] hermeneutic really weary me when attempting to demonstrate superior wisdom.So please note my biting sarcasm is most biblical as learned from the Apostle Paul in his Corinthian Letters.
After posting “legal public facts” on my personal antagoniz blog concerning the Courts judgment against Ron Luce and a warrant issued for his arrest, a “Rev” Jesse Leon Rogers responded with allegations concerning my motive and practice for doing so. He then proceeded to call me out for not responding immediately,” Did I hit a little too close to home Richard? You know I described what you did exactly”.
Here are some of his allegations with my response:
..”I can tell you, what you are doing is not only unwise but it is also un-biblical. You haven’t researched the situation. You haven’t talked to the people. And you haven’t prayed for Ron. All you have done is seen something posted and reposted it. Your spirit, attitude nor methodology reflect Christ nor Paul. It falls more in line with a gossip, tail bearer and the accuser.
Jesse, now that I have a few minutes, “I am your Huckleberry”. No Jesse, that’s not greek! From the movie tombstone, it means “I’m just the man you’re looking for” concerning your “to weak for the task” challenge.
Now let me take you into the Jesus paradigm-Paul following and adult world of scripture “rev”.
Your charges are these,” I haven’t prayed, haven’t talked to anyone, I did not do any research, merely re-posted someone else’s post, and for doing so I am a gossiping tale bearer and an accuser.
I now call on you to publicly post every source you discovered in your own research to verify the allegations you’ve made against me.
If you objectively document any of the following, I will publicly repent, write Ron Luce a letter of repentance and ask you to personally forgive me, and will make it public for all to see.
However, If you are unable or unwilling to prove your allegations with verifiable and reputable documentation, you stand guilty of being a hollow core hypocrite of the highest Pharisaical order!
[Jesus said,” can you say to your brother, ‘Let me get the speck out of your eye,’ when there is a bigger log in your own eye? You hypocrite (play-actor, pretender), first get the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matt 7:5-6]
So here is your chance to show that you are a man of character,honor and integrity. Demonstrate publicly you would never require something of me you haven’t done yourself. Man up Dude!
1.Objectively document that I merely reposted!
2.Document how you know I have not prayed for Ron!
3.Document I did not research the subject!
4. Document that the articles from World Magazine and Christianity Today are factually erroneous!
5. Document that a warrant has not been issued!
6.Document that Ron Luce has failed to refund $160,000
6.Document that the Colorado Court did not find him guilty and demand he make payment!
7 Document that I have distorted or misrepresented the legal public facts in any way or in anything I posted.
Secondly, you say what I have done in posting factual news is un-biblical. Let me school you in some biblical theology “rev” as you seem to be guilty of “wanting to be my teacher….even though you do not understand the terms used or the subjects about which you make [such] confident declarations. [1 timothy 1:7]
First, your lack of scholarship, biblical theology and bobo hermeneutic places God in contradiction to himself. If factual news is wrong and sinful, God is guilty of the very thing he condemns and forbids. Check out this biblical theology:
>David is publicly reported as being a peeping tom who pre-meditated murder, was guilty of covetous adultery and resulted in conceiving a bastard child.
>Lot offered his two virgin daughters to be violently gang raped.
>Abraham is counseled by his wife to have a sexual relationship with one of their servants.
>Paul the Apostle publicly outed a young man in the Corinthian church for living in an incestuous relationship.
>Lots daughters assist him with getting drunk and then commit an incestuous threesome in order to conceive and have children.
>Luke reports publicly that Sapphira and Ananias were lying deceiving covetous hypocrites.
>Paul publicly reported that Hymenaues and Alexander were blasphemers whom he turned over to Satan.
>In 3 John, he publicly reports that Diotrephes is spreading malicious lies and is using abusive discipline on the congregants.
>The first six chapters of First Corinthians are written based solely on information Paul “heard” from others and that he had no personal first hand knowledge of.
[..it is reported to me by some have from Chloe’s household and have told me about your quarrels…1 Corinthians 1: 11]
Finally, please note that Paul’s letters were read publicly and then passed around to the other churches to read. This means what he reported was then shared to different churches who had know knowledge of what was happening and Paul wanted it to be made public to all the congregations.
[Colossians 4:16 After this letter has been read to you, see that it is also read in the church of the Laodiceans and that you in turn read the letter from Laodicea]
[1 Thessalonians 5:27 I put you under oath to have this letter read to all the brothers]
As you can see “rev”, you do ‘ere not knowing the scriptures! It isn’t against God’s character or the Scriptures to relate to the broader church documented facts about leaders. Just the opposite, it is in God’s character both by example and admonition for us to do so!
Richard G Hanner