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An Open Letter to “Jesse Leon Rogers”

I would like to use this issue as a teaching moment regarding polemics. I must say ministers who create a  “canon within a canon” and who employ their ill-informed bobo [blink on-blink off] hermeneutic really weary me when attempting to demonstrate superior wisdom.So please note my biting sarcasm is most biblical as learned from the Apostle Paul in his Corinthian Letters.
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After posting  “legal public facts” on my personal antagoniz blog concerning the Courts judgment against Ron Luce and a warrant issued  for 556534_3652379382425_1481352205_nhis arrest, a “Rev” Jesse Leon Rogers responded with allegations concerning my motive and practice for doing so. He then proceeded to call me out for not responding immediately,” Did I hit a little too close to home Richard? You know I described what you did exactly”.
Here are some of his allegations with my response:
 ..”I can tell you, what you are doing is not only unwise but it is also un-biblical. You haven’t researched the situation. You  haven’t talked to the people. And you haven’t prayed for Ron. All you have done is seen something posted and reposted it. Your spirit, attitude nor methodology reflect Christ nor Paul. It falls more in line with a gossip, tail bearer and the accuser.
 Jesse, now that I have a few minutes, “I am your Huckleberry”. No Jesse, that’s not greek! From the movie tombstone, it means “I’m just the man you’re looking for” concerning your  “to weak for the task” challenge.
Now let me take you into the Jesus paradigm-Paul following and adult world of scripture “rev”.
Your charges are these,” I haven’t prayed, haven’t talked to anyone, I did not do any research, merely re-posted someone else’s  post, and for doing so I am a gossiping tale bearer and an accuser.
I now call on you to publicly post every source you discovered in your own research to verify the allegations you’ve made against me.
If you objectively document any of the following, I will publicly repent, write Ron Luce a letter of repentance and ask you to personally forgive me, and will make it public for all to see.
However, If you are unable or unwilling to prove your allegations with verifiable and reputable documentation, you stand guilty of being a hollow core hypocrite of the highest Pharisaical order!
 [Jesus said,”  can you say to your brother, ‘Let me get the speck out of your eye,’ when there is a bigger log in your own eye? You hypocrite (play-actor, pretender), first get the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matt 7:5-6]
So here is your chance to show that you are a man of character,honor and integrity. Demonstrate publicly you would never require something of me you  haven’t done yourself.  Man up Dude!
1.Objectively document that I merely reposted!
2.Document how you know I have not prayed for Ron!
3.Document I did not research the subject!
4. Document that the articles from World Magazine and Christianity Today are factually erroneous!
5. Document that a warrant has not been issued!
6.Document that Ron Luce has failed to refund $160,000
6.Document that the Colorado Court did not find him guilty and demand he make payment!
7 Document that I have distorted or misrepresented the legal public facts in any way or in anything I posted.
Secondly, you say what I have done in posting factual news is un-biblical. Let me school you in some biblical theology “rev” as you seem to be guilty of “wanting to be my teacher….even though you do not understand the terms  used  or the subjects about which you make [such] confident declarations. [1 timothy 1:7]
First, your lack of scholarship, biblical theology and bobo hermeneutic places God in contradiction to himself. If factual news is wrong and sinful, God is guilty of the very thing he condemns and forbids. Check out this biblical theology:
>David is publicly reported as being a peeping tom who  pre-meditated murder, was guilty of covetous adultery and resulted in conceiving a bastard child.
>Lot offered his two virgin daughters to be violently gang raped.
>Abraham is counseled by his wife to have  a sexual relationship with one of their servants.
>Paul the Apostle publicly outed a young man in the Corinthian church for living in an incestuous relationship.
>Lots daughters assist him with getting drunk and then commit an incestuous threesome in order to conceive and have children.
>Luke reports publicly that Sapphira and Ananias were lying deceiving covetous hypocrites.
>Paul publicly reported that Hymenaues and Alexander were blasphemers whom he turned over to Satan.
>In 3 John, he publicly reports that Diotrephes is spreading malicious lies and is using abusive discipline on the congregants.
>The first six chapters of First Corinthians are written based solely on information Paul “heard” from others and that he had no personal first hand knowledge of.
 [..it is reported to me by some have  from Chloe’s household and have told me about your quarrels…1 Corinthians 1: 11]
Finally, please note that Paul’s letters were read publicly and then passed around to the other churches to read. This means what he reported was then shared to different churches who had know knowledge of what was happening and Paul wanted it to be made public to all the congregations.
[Colossians 4:16 After this letter has been read to you, see that it is also read in the church of the Laodiceans and that you in turn read the letter from Laodicea]
[1 Thessalonians 5:27 I put you under oath to have this letter read to all the brothers]
 
As you can see “rev”, you do ‘ere not knowing the scriptures! It isn’t against God’s character or the Scriptures to relate to the broader church  documented facts about leaders. Just the opposite, it is in God’s character both by example and admonition for us to do so!
Richard G Hanner
 
 

 

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Posted by on October 5, 2015 in character, Conflict, Ethics, GOOOFY, hermeneutics, Honesty, maturity

 

Arrest Warrant Issued For Ron Luce of Teen Mania


According to Christianity Today and World Magazine, Compassion International sued Teen Mania for breach of contract after failingRon-Luce-posed-Facebook to follow through on Child Sponsorship advertising last year. Teen Mania then refused to refund CI’s invested $160,000.

Teen Mania is said to have disregarded the suit resulting in the Court awarding Compassion International the full amount plus court and attorney fees. 

World Magazine reports that a warrant has now been issued for the arrest of Ron Luce. 

 

 

 

 

 
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Posted by on October 4, 2015 in character, Ethics, finance, Honesty, Integrity, lawsuit

 

Al Mohler: “Tebow’s Big Fumble”

Wow! While most were supportive, some were angered by my inclusion of the word “compromise” in the title of the post imagesCAP0YIWSregarding Tebow’s recent announcement that he would not follow through with his speaking engagement at First Baptist Church in Dallas.  However,  I am comforted by the insight of Dr. Al Mohler in his recent coverage of the controversy.

Did Tebow actually compromise on serious convictional issues in scripture about the  “Exclusivity of Christ” and  “homosexuality?” I am inclined to think so.

Read Mohler before you decide. He documents the kind of  pressure  applied to Tebow to withdraw from his speaking engagement as revealed in the articles extracts below.

Remember, it is always wrong to be “lovingly winsome” if it means portraying  biblical truth as “hatefully offensive”.

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“…controversy quickly shifted to secular outrage that Tebow would agree to speak to a church known for such beliefs.

Gregg Doyel of CBS Sports warned, “Tim Tebow is about to make the biggest mistake of his life” by speaking at “a hateful Baptist preacher’s church.” Doyel described Jeffress as “an evangelical cretin” guilty of serial hate speech. Of course, Doyel engaged in hateful and slanderous speech of his own by associating Jeffress with the truly hateful Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas. Jeffress “isn’t as bad as Westboro,” Doyel admitted, “But he comes close. Too close.”

Other sportswriters piled on. Benjamin Hochman of The Denver Post offered his own warning to Tebow: “After a season on the sidelines, the ball’s in your hands, Timmy. Better not fumble this one.”

…Writing at The Huffington Post, Paul Brandeis Raushenbush made it clear the controversy wasn’t just a matter of Jeffress’s tone, conceding, “while Dr. Jeffress has a tendency not to sugarcoat his feelings,” he is nonetheless voicing what evangelical Christians “have been saying for a long time.” The central scandal here is the belief that Jesus is the only Savior and that homosexual behavior is sin. In terms of the larger public debate, it is the issue of homosexuality that has predominated the larger public debate… “

Evangelical Christians are now called upon to think strategically about what it means to speak truthfully and lovingly to a society that increasingly sees us as the moral outlaws.”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/february-web-only/tebows-big-fumble.html?utm_source=ctweekly-html&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_term=9682733&utm_content=157598634&utm_campaign=2013

 

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Drunken Worship Leaders

It’s a sad day in the Kingdom!

Antinomian “worship leaders” using their so-called liberty as occasion for drunkenness and  vile vulgarities has now become all to common. Little wonder, local churches reject biblical standards  and flagrantly refuse to administer anything akin to restorative discipline. If you do, you are labeled a cult. If you don’t, you are called a “grace” church.

The Reformers called these libertine types “false churches”. I beer_keg_manstand with the Reformers!

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“…it is increasingly common to hear about worship leaders getting drunk after church services and dropping f-bombs while they boast about their “liberty” in the Lord.”

“One of my closest ministry colleagues posted this on his Facebook page last year: “There was a knot in the pit of my stomach this afternoon after I hung up the phone with a friend of mine who pastors a growing church in our city. He relayed to me an anguishing story of how some members from his worship team were hanging out with other worship leaders in a key local church. He reported to me that his team came back from that hang-out experience quite perplexed as the f-bombs were flying from the openly and unashamedly drunk worship leaders.”

Another pastor told me that he sent a number of young people from his congregation to train in a ministry school known for its worship. All of them came back to his church with a drinking problem, the result of hanging out with other “worshipers” in the ministry school. And on and on it goes.”

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/38195-drunken-worship-leaders-and-mercenary-musicians

 
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Posted by on February 13, 2013 in antinomian, character, Church Discipline, GOOOFY, sanctification

 

How Did We Get Here?

imagesThis week Ministry Today  posted an article that cited some very disturbing statistics regarding the alarming condition of today’s ministers in the church. How did we get here?

  • 38 percent of ministers have admitted to having a one-time or ongoing affair since they began their ministry.
  • Even more have admitted to looking at pornography via their computers at home and or at their church office.
  • 77 percent of ministers surveyed admitted that they do not have a good marriage.
  • 1,500 pastors leave the ministry each month due to moral failure, spiritual burnout, or contention in their churches, never returning to the ministry.

http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/component/content/article/249-columns/cutting-edge/19878-heal-your-servant-pastors-deserve-grace-too

 
 

“Wimpy Pastors Produce Wimpy Christians”

robert-jeffress-coverDr. Robert Jeffress is the senior pastor of the 11,000-member First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas. Dr. Jeffress has been  honored  with the Daniel Award for his steadfast commitment and boldness in proclaiming the uncompromising Word of God.

The following statements are extracts from an interview Jeffress did with  Bill O’Reilly on Fox News.

Now here is an SBC minister that I can follow:

“I think one reason is a lot of Christian leaders have the wrong idea about Jesus,” Jeffress replied when asked the question. “They see Jesus as this little, wimpy guy who walked around plucking daisies and eating birdseed and saying nice things, but never doing anything controversial. The fact is, Jesus did confront his culture with truth — and he ended up being crucified because of it.”

“Wimpy pastors produce wimpy Christians — and that is why we are losing this culture war,” he emphasized.

“I believe it’s time for pastors to say, You know, I don’t care about controversy, I don’t care whether I’m going to lose church members, I don’t care about building a big church. I’m going to stand for truth regardless of what happens.”

http://www.onenewsnow.com/church/2012/12/13/pastor-%E2%80%98wimpy%E2%80%99-won%E2%80%99t-cut-it-in-culture-war

http://www.firstdallas.org/explore-first/our-pastor-and-staff/

 
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Posted by on January 8, 2013 in character, convictional, Integrity

 

Ministers Get Low Rating On Honesty and Ethical Standards

According to Gallop,  Americans  rate the honesty and ethical standards of the medical  profession— nurses, pharmacists, and doctors — the highest of the 21 professions tested. Since 1999, Nurses continue to enjoy the highest trust of the public.

It’s obvious that Ministers have a serious “reputation problem” as trust in the profession continues to decline. I submit  that this is now a “status confessionis” issue for the true church. But more on that later.

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November 2012: Please Tell Me How You Would Rate the Honesty and Ethical Standards of People in These Different Fields

http://www.gallup.com/poll/1654/honesty-ethics-professions.aspx

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/11/05/a-status-confessionis-issue/

 
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Posted by on December 3, 2012 in character, Ethics, Honesty, Integrity

 

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